I practiced so much but i didn't found any good sound from the kick of FL, i compressed but i couldn't find the magical kick like GGDAG , Gabry Ponte, all of you had made that powerfull sound.
Any tips what can i make it if i use FL??
That sound is a sample?????:confused:
Please guys help me;) , A greatfull dejay from spain help with a sample kick but i wanna learn how i made that. The lessons are welcomed, bye and thanks. 
Yeah! For do that Italo remix of DJ Power, I've used the Vengeance Essential Clubsounds sample CDs!
You should get them! 
Then, you need to make also a good bass with Vanguard, and compress everything (Kick+Bass) with a Multiband compressor, with the freq under 300hz compressed and the freq over 300hz bypassed.
absolutelly Right!
omg.... 
the secret is----> good ears!!!!!!!
try to find the right kick to the right bass...dont play to much with eq and comp...you can damage the sound if you dont know what you're doing.
you will get the feeling with time...
marco
Good TIP!
Thank you Marco. I think we all could be use it also ;]~
wow, buddy, not only hears, knwoledgde on production, i just compresse the native fl kick thinking on the powerfull sound, i analyzed the super kicks on production and sound like if the kick were processed with an envelope, i had used two differents kicks -- not work -- i had used many another features -- not work --. The next weekend i'll show how i made that process, but i wanna learn, sampling it is easy but the words of daniel and simps0n are good. Thanks guys, another question. Where can i get that cd samples
Marco says -- omg....
the secret is----> good ears!!!!!!!
try to find the right kick to the right bass...dont play to much with eq and comp...you can damage the sound if you dont know what you're doing.
you will get the feeling with time..
marco --
This is not entirely true dude, because the kick and bass are separate sounds, you can make a powerfull bass but the kick could be ill, -- like the mine, in some cases --.
Hi, simps0n, what is inflation:confused:, what can you do that buddy;), thanks for your time:D
The answer depends on, where and as you get everything on what you produce music ;]~
vengeance-sound.com or use google
p.s.
Or just send me example with your favorite kick (gabry ponte or onther)? and i'll try to help you man. Use PM
1. General description of INFLATOR.
The Inflator plug-in is primarily designed to address the current preference to produce the maximum apparent loudness from popular music mixes. Many processes are already in use, which are variously reliant on compression and limiting to produce maximum modulation and engender an impression of excitement to the sound of the programme. The Inflator plug-in goes further than these methods and can increase the loudness of almost any programme material, regardless of the levels of prior compression or remaining dynamic range. It will even make full level white noise sound louder! The Inflator plug-in can also be used to create much of the warmth, character and dynamic excitement of analogue systems within the digital domain.
The Inflator process functions by changing the relative probability of the samples in the programme such that there is a greater predominance and likelihood of larger values than the original signal. Because the Inflator does not employ signal compression there is no ‘pumping’, dynamic level changes, loss of presence or flattening of percussive attacks. The full dynamic information of the music is largely preserved despite the increase in average modulation density.
In addition to loudness enhancement, the Inflator process can create a harmonic profile in the signal spectrum that not only increases the apparent dynamic impact of instruments and performances, but also provides ’warmth’ to the programme, reminiscent of good tube systems. When used this way, the Inflator process even has the ability of good tube systems in producing great sounding programme when significantly overdriven and can therefore be used as an artistic enhancement tool on single performances within a mix.
2. Or if you are NI Battery user, the other name of this effect is SATURATOR!
Thank also for the picture simps0n, but i do not have that eq or plug-in, i will try the advice from daniel with all kicks to see what happens, the idea is make my own sound at least but i feel a little jeolusy of that sound that do you create. Maybe the masters of italo get hardware sample and use, What is the most classic hardware kick do you know, because they bassed on that, and use instruments to create the kicks that we know at now. 
This is not entirely true dude, because the kick and bass are separate sounds, you can make a powerfull bass but the kick could be ill, -- like the mine, in some cases --.
Sorry Mike, but MARCO is absolutelly right! Your bass and kick should sound as a unit!
In a result the sound should be similar that kick plays one note, and bass plays the same note through an octave only!
Thanks simp0n, excellent information and learning i did not ever had friend, , i never used the saturator because i not have NI battery or had a plug-in, i will research well if something that i letting behind or something many many thanks
As i told you VENGEANCE libraries have kick samples (and not only kicks) of almost music producers! Good idea start from them...and maybe in next time make your own sample. But i think you haven't good app to make your own sample...
why the bass must sound at the same with the kick, -- maybe compose on italo -- , when i composse the songs sounds like one note OR MAYBE, RIGHT NOW, I DO NOT KNOW, buddys do you make me confusse:confused::D , what do you think simps0n, respect my last song, NOVA SHOT STREAM, for example that song not have the kick properly, but sound like one unit -- MAYBE:confused: let me know please -- , --- this lessons are really good friends:) --
simps0ns says --
But i think you haven't good app
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Exactly app, is vst:confused:, or an genertor like kontak, intakt or reaktor synth because that i have, well vst,s i have fm7, fm8, bandstand, vanguard, absynth 4, pro-53, b-4, massive and no more.
hhmmm
Can you share it on speedyshare server (or any another) for example?
1. fm7, fm8, bandstand, vanguard, absynth 4, pro-53, b-4, massive - VSTi (instruments)
2. To create your own good sample you need SAMPLER (VST)
Good samplers:
- Native Instruments Kontakt
- Native Instruments Battery
- Steinberg Halion
Of course my friend
the link
[url]http://www.esnips.com/doc/7ac9c927-c755-4186-8a77-dd6a0189b97f/04)-Nova-Shot-Stream---Mike-Feast[/url]
this song i previously posted here, i released a compilation with this track, the number fourth.
Sorry Mike....but
On mine this sound is more similar to a small "bunch", than on commercial kick
Exactly!!!, this is i wanna change, if i turn up the volume, the song felt down, if i use multiband compression, the same results, well, the orinal kick is more to a minimal song more than like italo, i tried, and i still tryng with that sample, until reach a decent result with this, ( i must say that i produce only weekends, so a little hard )
)All you need it's just another sample of kick! (without any multiband compresion etc)
@ Mike....
i see you're a pro....so go ahead. you will make it far
i see you're a pro....so go ahead. you will make it far
Well, i'll never be a professional, except when i gain my life with this.
Mike, you are really strange person... why you don't online on msn???
I don't know buddy, only weekends i'm connecting, but sometimes when i log in on msn account and when i see that the people don't get connected at the same time that i do, inmedietely i log out, :D :D, i'm not a lover of the messenger :D, maybe for that reason.... Yeahp.....
....
And well, well, after many ''discovering'' and a lot of work, finally i made a decent kick for my song, and i made my own kick (The Edison My Tool), i'm preparing the rmx of the GGDAG song Lost In My Dreams, right now i'll open singers to add my request, ideas would be a great contribution to my compilation.
The projects still On, Works Released:
http://www.jamendo.com/es/artist/Mike_Feast
Another releases, Next:
Magic Compilation Vol. 2
Stronger Soul Of Light (Album)
Trip Of Night (Final Single)
Dark Saw Compliation........... all in progress, collabs here with Simp0n, Oscar Irrustia and another artists.
Thanks Daniel for the teaching, you were right, the frequence to the kick is of 3080 of destruction and the distortion rate was of 1085 hz. The Mixing Point was of 3520 (With Edison Plug In - FL). Finally this weekend i upload the samples of how i worked.
Seeya to all.
I use samples from Mantero djmantero.it
Finally made it.
Maybe not italo but a little near. The starting point was the classic kick from FL, was modified with a long distortion, moderate click and decayment to the top left of the knobs. Before this process i recorded with edison to reprocess again with a plugin FX called ''distructor'', the result is this (Keep in your sound banks if you want):
My personal Kick:
http://www8.zippyshare.com/v/64812547/file.html
Another kicks with the same process:
http://www4.zippyshare.com/v/88300622/file.html
http://www4.zippyshare.com/v/18229630/file.html
http://www4.zippyshare.com/v/47189751/file.html
http://www4.zippyshare.com/v/73354685/file.html
And a kick from mantero's pages, courtesy by a closer friend mine who mades italo in Spain. Closer to GGDAG Classic Kick, enjoy at all:
http://www.zippyshare.com/v/45966415/file.html
And my first bass moog with the distruction plug in:
http://www.zippyshare.com/v/45966415/file.html
Thanks to all, piccolo tutti e certo, Mantero create powerfull sounds (and music too).:)
OH my...im pretty late on you guys..huhu.it almost 5 years..and i love italo music i wanna learn to remix italo.
Hi Mike!
Almost music producers (of Italo music also) use samples:
Vengeance-Essential-Clubsounds Vol 1
&
Vengeance-Essential-Clubsounds Vol 2
There is any kicks for commercial music.
Plus use compression & Inflation. There isnt secrets.
All you need is good sample of kick.
If you need something special kick show me example & I'll help you! DON'T BE SHY! ;]~
p.s. Check attachment. There is example of good commercial kick shape. Look at "Hump" in 60-70Hz
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