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OrangeJuice

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What do you guys think about...

... the trend in American pop/rnb music to use more catchy melodies, Autotune on the vocals and synthesizers? The last couple of years, pop/rnb in the US turned more and more to dance music. The last months it's moving towards a climax, 'everyone' is doing it right now

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Lady Gaga ft. Space Cowboy & Flo Rida - Starstruck

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMgeR0EJjZA[/YOUTUBE]

Kanye West - Love Lockdown

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2M9YHATH2Q[/YOUTUBE]

Kanye West - Heartless

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hUgUPlQp0Y[/YOUTUBE]

Chris Brown - Forever

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9kobI4YoMw[/YOUTUBE]

T-Pain ft. Chris Brown - Freeze

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGeMHCUKkhw[/YOUTUBE]

November 16th, 2008 - 18:10

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-edit- ok now it works

November 16th, 2008 - 18:12

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Yeah I have noticed it!! especially with Kanye West - Love Lockdown!

Let's hope it's continuing back to the years of DANCE!!

November 16th, 2008 - 18:34

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I haven't noticed it cause i never listen such music

I see your point but there is still a long way to go before it's dance.. and to be honest i dont think Kanye West will ever turn to Eurodance

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November 16th, 2008 - 18:40

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CFE wrote:

I haven't noticed it cause i never listen such music

I see your point but there is still a long way to go before it's dance.. and to be honest i dont think Kanye West will ever turn to Eurodance

If he does like PDJ, PromiseLand, Prezioso feat. Marvin etc. ...then he will if it becomes "fashion"

November 16th, 2008 - 18:52

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Yep, i've noticed it
I like this "new" kind of hiphop alot! Timbaland, T-Pain, Akon (& all his other productions @ Konvict Music) use those kinds of sounds alot..
But i dont get how Love Lockdown is dancy? x'D do you mean the vocals, or what?

November 16th, 2008 - 18:54

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If he does like PDJ, PromiseLand, Prezioso feat. Marvin etc. ...then he will if it becomes "fashion"

Yes and if classical music becomes mainstream DJ Zulan will start playing Tuba in his free time .. the odds are pretty much the same

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November 16th, 2008 - 19:52

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Yeah I have to admit that i'm hearing more and more synths into shit rap songs

just look @ Rihanna making cover of Dragosta Din Tei in one of her sucky songs.

November 17th, 2008 - 12:07

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dano wrote:

Yep, i've noticed it

I like this "new" kind of hiphop alot! Timbaland, T-Pain, Akon (& all his other productions @ Konvict Music) use those kinds of sounds alot.. But i dont get how Love Lockdown is dancy? x'D do you mean the vocals, or what?

Yeah ok Love Lockdown is not a very good example hehehe. It's quite something new/fresh overall.

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I haven't noticed it cause i never listen such music

I see your point but there is still a long way to go before it's dance.. and to be honest i dont think Kanye West will ever turn to Eurodance

No, but it has common elements (synth, vocoder, catchy melody), it's a trend, which seems to be really popular. So, I would say, this is a good time to release (euro)dance tracks... but there hasn't been much change in Europe at least. I wonder why...
Aside from that, for example Vanni G produced the Coolio album which sounded just like average commercial hiphop. Euro/italodance producers could be doing very well in producing pop/urban songs that are popular today. For example, there is a Dutch producer (not really special or well-known) that produces half the tracks for the new Akon album. They missed an opportunity there I think.

November 17th, 2008 - 12:08

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Lucky65 wrote:

Yeah I have to admit that i'm hearing more and more synths into shit rap songs

just look @ Rihanna making cover of Dragosta Din Tei in one of her sucky songs.

Geh, well I like Rihanna but that song is terrible.

November 17th, 2008 - 13:43

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OrangeJuice wrote:

No, but it has common elements (synth, vocoder, catchy melody), it's a trend, which seems to be really popular. So, I would say, this is a good time to release (euro)dance tracks... but there hasn't been much change in Europe at least. I wonder why... Aside from that, for example Vanni G produced the Coolio album which sounded just like average commercial hiphop. Euro/italodance producers could be doing very well in producing pop/urban songs that are popular today. For example, there is a Dutch producer (not really special or well-known) that produces half the tracks for the new Akon album. They missed an opportunity there I think.

You are quite right. Vanni G is a dead fish nowadays, unfortunately, but he has reached a level of the few. I see your point but close to all musical genres borrow elements from other genres. This might very well be some kind of trend using electronic equipment to enhance genres such as hiphop and RnB but it's not close to dance music and I'm just saying that it probably never turn into it anyway.. but perhaps it awakens an interest for electronic music for some

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November 17th, 2008 - 15:16

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Yep, that's what I mean, Kanye West won't make italodance, that would be insane
But what I can make up from this trend, is that the (young) audience of 2008 does like to hear danceable songs, catchy melodies... and that it could be a sign of reviving interest in commercial pop/dance music (not necessarily the old-style italodance or anything, but just something better than what we're used to in the past years).

November 17th, 2008 - 15:19

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Apart from that, I'm also just happy that I have something NEW to listen to that I really really like (mostly thanks to my vocoder addiction I guess).

November 17th, 2008 - 19:55

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i know only the chris brown songs, they are nice!
the other, it is still to much r&b to me, if i want to like it, oke it does remind me less on almost naked women dancing, and the melody is more catchy, but i prefer something else.
Like chris brown that's a song, it's complete, nice melody little beat inside, nice vocals, and i miss that complete image in the other songs..

But i think it's a good time for other projects to try another time yeah

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November 29th, 2008 - 14:09

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Like I've said earlier, i think Akon uses more dance/electronic sounds

Akon - Beautiful
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwrPJvEDJ4I&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]
Akon - Right Now (this one i think sounds a little like that Summerlove, NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA IEEYEEAH song, you know x'D)
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCW34a53QS0&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]
& not to mention this one! x') (which i've showed before )
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4yjOEtsRTE[/YOUTUBE]

& another genre that uses alot of these sounds is Reggeaton! (: (L) <3

Arcangel - Pa Que La Pases Bien
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZEK1OJ5SCA&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]
Rakim Y Ken-Y Feat. Don Omar - Cuerpo Sensual {The Royalty}
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oRgQOYNUR4[/YOUTUBE]
Zion & Lennox - Boom Boom
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCIWqG_dEiI[/YOUTUBE]

x')

December 8th, 2008 - 04:50

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Yulia Ahonkova (Julia Kova) - Konfetnij Malchik

Another dance r'n'b song. Has lots of elements. It's in Russian but it's probably a good example. This came out about 2 to 3 years ago. This video is the toned down version. The other video isn't toned down and has blacked out frontal nudity.

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